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Why’d they put that in a museum?

Art. Objects. Museums. Ideas. Questions.

What happens when you put things on display and invite people in to look? Have you ever seen something on display and wondered, “Why’d they put that in a museum?”

In each episode, museum curator Sarah Lees and author Beth Bacon discuss stories behind art and objects in museums. They start the conversation with one item, in one specific place. The discussion takes off from there. We explore the thing, its history, and the cultural ideas surrounding it. We eventually come back to the original thing… almost every time, in the end, that object seems different as a result.

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Season 2 Episodes

01

Currents 124 Exhibit
by Crystal Z. Campbell

Artwork by Crystal Z Campbell, manilla paper and fibers

Artist: Crystal Z. Campbell (American, b. 1980)

Item: Various items at  Currents 124 Exhibit at St. Louis Art Museum

Details: multimedia (St. Louis Art Museum)

02

The Scream
by Edvard Munch

Picture of person screaming, the iconic image "The Scream" by artist Edvard Munch

Artist: Edvard Munch (Norwegian, 1863 – 1944)

Item: The Scream, 1893 version

Details:  oil, tempera, and pastel on cardboard, 36 in x 29 in (91cm x 73.5 cm)  National Museum of Norway

03

Bicycle Wheel
by Marcel Duchamp

Small white bench with bicycle rim attached

Artist: Marcel Duchamp (American born in France, 1887 – 1968)

Item: Bicycle Wheel  (third version, after lost original of 1913)

Details: Metal wheel mounted on painted wood stool, 51 x 25 x 16 1/2″ (129.5 x 63.5 x 41.9 cm), Museum of Modern Art, New York

04

Artist in His Studio
Rembrandt 

Rembrandt at his canvas

Artist: Rembrandt Harmenszoon van Rijn (Dutch, 1606–1669)

Item: Artist In His Studio

Details: Oil on panel, 9 3/4″ x 12 1/2″  (Boston Museum of Fine Arts)

05

Infinity Mirrored Room, Part 1
by Yayoi Kusama

dark blue room with small white lights

Artist: Yayoi Kusama (b. 1929)

Item: Infinity Mirrored Room–The Souls of Millions of Light Years Away, 2013

Details: Wood, metal, glass mirrors, plastic, acrylic panel, rubber, LED lighting system, acrylic balls, and water, 113 ¼ x 163 ½ x 163 ½ in. (Broad Los Angeles)

06

Infinity Mirrored Room, Part 2
by Yayoi Kusama

Infinity Mirrored Room behind Yayoi Kusama

Artist: Yayoi Kusama (b. 1929)

Item: Infinity Mirrored Room–The Souls of Millions of Light Years Away, 2013

Details: Wood, metal, glass mirrors, plastic, acrylic panel, rubber, LED lighting system, acrylic balls, and water, 113 ¼ x 163 ½ x 163 ½ in. (Broad Los Angeles)

07

Where’s the Cafe?
Museum Amenities

 

Rembrandt at his canvas

Details: In this episode, we explore museum elements that go beyond what’s on display, from restaurants to lectures to gift shops. We talk about the ways modern institutions are broadening their audiences and expanding their missions.

08

The Battle of Little Big Horn, Part 1
by
Stephen Standing Bear

narrow image of panoramic painting of battle of little big horn by stephen standing bear

Artist: Stephen Standing Bear (c. 1859–1933)

Item: The Battle of Little Bighorn, c. 1892–1900

Details: Pencil and ink on muslin, 35 x 174 in.  (Philbrook Museum of Art, Tulsa)

09

The Battle of Little Big Horn, Part 2
by Stephen Standing Bear

Infinity Mirrored Room behind Yayoi Kusama

Artist: Stephen Standing Bear (c. 1859–1933)

Item: The Battle of Little Bighorn, c. 1892–1900

Details: Pencil and ink on muslin, 35 x 174 in.  (Philbrook Museum of Art, Tulsa)

 

10

Maman
Louise Bourgeois

Sculpture of giant metal spider in museum atrium

Artist: Louise Bourgeois (1911 – 2010)

Item: Maman

Details: Steel and marble, 30 ½ x 29 ¼ x 33 ½ feet (Tate Modern; another version at Guggenheim, Bilbao)

11

One: Number 31, 1950
by
Jackson Pollock

field of densely interlaced threads of paint offset by pools and splashes of color

Artist: Jackson Pollock (1912–1956)

Item: One: Number 31, 1950

Details: Oil and enamel paint on canvas, 8ft 10 in. x 17ft 5 ⅝ in. (Museum of Modern Art, New York)

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01

Self-Portrait With Bandaged Ear by Vincent Van Gogh

Vincent Van Gogh Self-Portrait With Bandaged Ear

Artist: Vincent van Gogh (Zundert, Netherlands, 1853 – Auvers-sur-Oise, France, 1890)

Item: Self Portrait with Bandaged Ear

Details: 1889. Oil on canvas, 60.5 x 50 cm. The Courtauld Gallery, London.

02

Tar Beach by Faith Ringgold

TarBeach Faith Ringgold
Artist: Faith Ringgold (New York, 1930 – New Jersey, 2024)

Item: Woman on a Bridge #1 of 5: Tar Beach, 1988.

Details: Acrylic paint, canvas, printed fabric, ink, and thread, 189.5 x 174 cm. Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, New York. © 2023 Faith Ringgold / Artists Rights Society (ARS), New York, Courtesy ACA Galleries, New York.

03

Cage Crinoline by Unknown Maker

Sketch of cage crinoline under hoop skirt

Artist: Unknown maker

Item: cage crinoline, “A Favorite of the Empress”

Details: c. 1860 – 65. Spring steel, woven wool, linen, cotton, and brass, 93 cm diameter, 80 cm high. Victoria and Albert Museum, London.

04

Mona Lisa by Leonardo Da Vinci

mona lisa by leonardo davinci
Artist: Leonardo da Vinci (Florence, 1452 – Amboise, France, 1519)

Item: Portrait of Lisa Gherardini, called Mona Lisa

Details: 1503 – 1519. Oil on wood, 79.4 x 53.4 cm. Musée du Louvre, Paris.

05

Storage Jar by Dave the Potter

dave the potter storage jar

Artist: Dave, later recorded as David Drake (American, c. 1801 – 1870s)

Item: Storage jar

Details: 1858. Stony Bluff Manufactory, Old Edgefield, South Carolina. Alkaline-glazed stoneware, 55.7 cm high, 68.6 cm diameter, approx. 25 gal. capacity. The Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York.

06

Joe by Richard Serra

Joe by richard serra vertical photo by beth bacon
Artist: Richard Serra (San Francisco, 1938 – New York, 2024)

Item: Joe

Details: 1999. Corten weathering steel, approx. 13 ½ ft. high, 48 ft. wide. Pulitzer Art Foundation, Saint Louis. (Photo credit: Beth Bacon)

07

Dolley Madison daguerreotype by John Plumbe, Jr.

Dolley Madison daguerreotype

Artist: John Plumbe, Jr. (1809 – 1857)

Item: Dolley Madison

Details: c. 1846. Daguerreotype, approx. 15 x 12 cm. National Portrait Gallery, Washington, DC.

08

Photos by Vivian Maier

Vivian Maier mirrors

Artist: Vivian Maier (New York, 1926 – Chicago, 2009)

Item: photographs

Details: Vivian Maier (New York, 1926 – Chicago, 2009), photographs, The Maloof Collection, © 2024 Maloof Collection, Ltd.

09

Photos by Lusha Nelson

Katherine Hepburn photo by Lusha Nelson

Artist: Lusha Nelson (Latvia, 1907 – New York, 1938)

Item: Photographs of Katherine Hepburn (above), Jesse Owens, and others

Details: Philbrook Museum of Art, Tulsa.

10

What is a museum?

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Details: In this episode, we explore the history and evolution of museums, from their ancient origins to Renaissance collections and modern institutions. This conversation highlights how museums have shifted their missions, especially after 2020, adapting to serve diverse audiences and focusing on community engagement.

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About the Podcasters

Sarah Lees, Art curator and researcher

Sarah Lees

Sarah is a museum curator and researcher who has worked in organizations both large and small, and who remembers her first assignment for an art history class – to look into Rembrandt’s eyes and describe what she saw there. She believes everyone can find those kinds of connections to some form of creative expression, whether it’s a painting, a grandmother’s quilt, or a perfectly formed pen-stroke in a manuscript.

Beth Bacon
Beth Bacon

In addition to being an avid museum-goer, Beth Bacon is an author for young readers. Her books empower today’s kids to learn about themselves and the world through reading. She is also a teacher and branding consultant and a volunteer at the Missouri History Museum. Beth holds an MFA in Writing for Children and Young Adults from Vermont College of Fine Arts, an MA in Communication Arts from NYU, and a BA in Literature from Harvard University. 

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The music you hear in the intro and outro was composed by Edward Whelan. We appreciate his contribution to our podcast.

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Why’d They Put That in a Museum? A Podcast Exploring the Stories Behind Museum Objects

Museums are often seen as quiet spaces, housing everything from art to history to objects with untold stories. But have you ever walked through a gallery and wondered, “Why’d they put that in a museum?”

If you’re like most museum visitors, you might admire some art and artifacts, but not fully understand the significance of those objects. This podcast, called “Why’d They Put That In A Museum,” is helping to change that by exploring the hidden stories behind some interesting art and artifacts on display in museums.

This podcast explains why curators make the choices they do, and hopefully provides valuable insights into art, history, and artifacts. After all, understanding the history of objects and their cultural significance can enhance your experience of art. 

Uncovering the Stories Behind Museum Objects

 We believe the museum experience is one of discovery. From ancient artifacts to contemporary art pieces, every item in a museum has a story. Museum objects don’t just exist in isolation—they’re part of cultural history. The history of objects is often far deeper than what we see on the surface. So this museum podcast, “Why’d They Put That In A Museum,” helps listeners learn about the people who created a work of art, the supporters who championed it, and the cultural context that make those objects worthy of being preserved and put on display. 

Museum collections are more than just things to look at—curators put together displays as reflections of human creativity, history, and identity. Art and objects from different periods and regions tell unique stories that help us understand the world and our place in it. 

We know that when you visit a museum, it’s not always easy to engage with the visual art history of the items on display simply by looking at them and reading the art notes on the small cards attached to the wall. Wouldn’t it be great to have an actual art curator explain what’s important and interesting? That’s the object of the podcast, “Why’d They Put That In A Museum.”

Art, Artifacts, and The Stories That Led Them To Be On Display

Each episode in this museum podcast focuses on the history behind one object. Together, art curator Sarah Lees and author Beth Bacon chat and explain the cultural significance of art. They explore the lesser-known narratives behind the objects. For example, did you know the Mona Lisa was housed in the Louvre before it was a museum? That Van Gogh’s work ended up in museums because of the hard work of his sister-in-law?

Listening to the podcast, “Why’d They Put That In A Museum,” can enrich your museum exploration, giving you a new lens through which to view art. You’ll hear about the ways artists and creators interact with their environment to produce groundbreaking works of creativity. This podcast, which focuses on museum object stories, gives you an insider’s insight to the art and objects on display. You’ll also hear about the hidden histories that just can’t be seen simply by looking at the art that’s on display on the walls in a museum.

When you’re visiting museums, it’s not just about seeing the art but also understanding it. Engaging with the museum experience through this podcast gives you a deeper connection with the objects. By focusing on artifacts in museums and museum insights, you will learn to appreciate their stories and significance.

A Podcast About The Reason Art and Objects Are Chosen By Curators

This podcast can offer new understanding of the historical and cultural insights of  art and artifacts. You’ll develop a greater appreciation of the cultural significance of art. And maybe you’ll even be able to enjoy art more than ever before. Each object, piece of art, and artifact on display in a museum is there for a reason. Listen to this podcast and dive into the stories we have to tell. The experience may expand your understanding of art history and even cultural history. The podcast is a living narrative that invites you to learn, reflect, and explore about art that’s familiar—and art that makes you ask “Why’d They Put That In A Museum”?